QUERIE CORNER TWO

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    • #4971

      Billy

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      Marie Tunks -Posted on Wolverhampton Past and Present

      Does anyone know where york house high street wolverhampton was please my grandfather had a business there called Thomas Edwards and Sons, Drapers, General Furnishers, etc., and Undertakers, York House, 1, 2, 3, and 4 High Street.

      They were here Marie

      YORK HOUSE

      In nineteenth century Wolverhampton, High Street covered both sides of what became the extended Dudley Street, from High Green (Queen Square) to King Street and St John’s Street.

      During which time No’s ’1 2 3 & 4 were on the West side,

      In 1870 (possibly when this block was rebuilt) William York a Boot Manufactorer had his business there. ( York House).

      in 1879 William York as seen on his Advert above has re-located to 12 Queen Street.

      In the Kelly’s Directory of 1892 and again in the Directory of 1905 listed here at 1 2 3 & 4 High Street.
      are Thomas Edwardes & Sons Silk Merchants, Drapers, Funeral Furnishers etc….
      The address again York House – 1 2 3 & 4 Dudley Street.
      Later Dudley Street was extended and re-numbered and 1 2 3 &4 crossed to the east side and became the row we know today from Lloyd’s Bank to King Street

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    • #5004

      Billy

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      BUXTON & BONNETT

      I was so sorry to hear today another of our famous shops of yesteryear has closed for good.
      Buxton & Bonnett – Had been trading in Dudley Street and later Victoria Street, for 40 years or more before I bought my first made to measure Gaberdine suit from there in 1953.
      Many old Wulfrunians will have memories of a visit to Buxton & Bonnett, here in Dudley Street did you.

      Below the old cellar head.

    • #5029

      Billy

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      David Greenway Posted a picture on his facebook group. Wolverhampton surrounding areas chat and nostalgia.
      Of Cheapside circa 1890’s when it was used as a fruit and vegetable market, he asks and I quote

      Wondering whats that place between church and mkt

      It was of course The Old Exchange Hall erected in 1851.To answer this querie once and for all I shall post a couple of snippets regarding this ill-fated hall

      Exchange Building 2

      This was the Exchange Hall – looking from Cheapside toward Exchange Street, named after this building which was erected in 1851 at a cost of £15,000.

      To the the left of the hall stood the original St Peter’s Schools, built in 1847, on what was then Craddocks Walk.

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      • #5032

        Billy

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        From its position it completly blocked the the veiw of West front of St Peter’s Church.
        Built just two years before the Retail Market was built alongside it.

        There are many stories regarding this old hall besides Charles Dickens holding many of his lectures at the Exchange, there where other occasions not so favourable.
        In one instance part of the balcony collapsed during the 15th round of a boxing match on August 17th 1896. luckly no one was badly injured.

        The Open Space

        The Exchange Hall was pulled down in 1898, and these ornamental gardens filled the ground which today face Civic Centre

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    • #5034

      Billy

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      John Lloyd posted

      Well Done BILLY HOWE I like Dave was Baffled what that building was ! I’ve been scanning through all the different sites , but to no avail
      The OldExchange Hall , any Idea what it was used for Billy ? Cheers mate .

      Billy Howe posted

      John to answer your querie regarding the Ironmasters’ Exchange as it was known.
      The Exchange stood at the end of Exchange Street (which may have been cut through to provide access to it), immediately in front of the west front of St. Peter’s, where the gardens, war memorial and statute of Lady Wulfruna now stand.

      Nobody has a good word to say for this building. John Roper, in “Wolverhampton as it Was”, Vol. 1., calls it a “Victorian white elephant.

      Originally intended simply as a Corn Exchange for the use of farmers and millers” , and at least in part, for the ironmasters to conduct their business in. but the ironmasters certainly didn’t like it.

      Dickens was not the only performer who used the building. Many visiting artists did so and many plays and concerts were put on.

      Probably the owners in later years were letting it out for whatever use they could find.
      Anyway, nobody seems to have objected to its demolition and its disappearance certainly opened up the front of St Peters Church and Gardens.

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    • #5091

      Billy

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      Old barrell

      The “Old Barrell” Inn was timber -framed house, where as far back as the sixteenth century, stood on the corner of Bell Street, and Victoria Street.

      At this moment in time,in the 1880’s on a spot very near to the town brook at Boblake
      Its a strong possibility that this open stream of running water, which came from Snow hill, and crossed the road here at Boblake, saved the “Old Barrel” from the disastrous fire, that destroyed 104 houses and businesses around Salop or Barn Street, in the Spring of 1590.

      Just to get any feeling of the longevity of the “Old barrel Inn”. and the changes to circumstances it was witness too.

      You must visualise this old Inn as the popular alehouse it was in Boblake at the time of Sir Francis Drake and the Armada, and yet still providing mild and bitter, (albeit in a different guise) at this same spot on the corner of Bell street and Victoria street, at the time of the Suez crisis in 1956.

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    • #5093

      Billy

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      It is easy for younger Wulfrunians to mistake pictures of “The Old Barrell Inn” and the former “Hand Inn”,(Copper Kettle) and of course (Lindy Lou).

      Because as you see, they are very similar in appearance and age, and also used to stand quite close to one and other in what became Victoria Street.

      Copper kettle

      Victoria Street-John Street corner in 1872.The timber framed house, dating probably from about the time Thomas Cromwell and Henry VIII were suppressing the Monasteries.
      It was known as “The Hand Inn” as early as 1609.
      When this photo was taken it was in the possessionof James Taylor,baker, and one year later passed to the Hughes Family

      The very fine brick house to the left, was once occupied by the surgeon, Walter Stubbs in 1770.
      We had many of these late 18th century houses in town at one time, although this one has been partly saved today, its lovely facade has now been sadly mutilated.

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    • #5098

      Billy

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      You can see what I mean about the mutilation of the old building, when you look at the facade of the house next door on this similar scene from 1979-80, when Lindy Lou was going through (some over the top) restoration.

      Notice the front then contained the business of Yarnolds, drapers and Dan Price bicycle dealer.
      Older Wulfrunians may recall a branch of George Masons on this spot in the 1950s’-60s.’

      Roofless Lindy Lou

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    • #5099

      Billy

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      For David on Wolverhampton and Surrounding Areas.
      The Old House In Barn Street.

      On Isaac Taylor’s map of Wolverhampton, made in 1750. these premises seem to lie between Barn St (later Salop St) and “Brickkhill Lane (later Brickkiln Street).

      As the timber frame shows they date from the 17th century adjoining them on either side are houses built in the early 19th century .

      The photograph was taken in April 1913, when the Theatre Royal, Bilston Street, was at the Mercy of the Mormons. (As noted by the poster on the side
      wall.)

      The large derelict building on the opposite side of Peel Street was after the first world war cleared and became Samuel Westwoods Coal yard.
      Who’s Grandaughter Kate Hartland-Westwood is a member of this group.

      The area behind the old house known as Brickkiln Croft, was cleared a decade later.

      TIMBER HOUSE

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    • #5106

      Billy

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      A last look today, at The Old Barrell building on the corner of Bell Street re-built in the 1880’s
      I can still recall in the early 1950’s nipping across Victoria Street in the interval from The Central Dance Studio, for a quick half here at The Old Barrell.
      On the demise of the Old Pub in the early 1960’s. The building became a butchers shop but its best remembered over the years as The first Kentucky Fried Chicken outlet.in town

      Favourite Chickenjpg

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    • #5155

      Billy

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    • #5183

      Billy

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      Jan Rowley on Wolverhampton surrounding areas chat & nostalgia requests:
      Any photos of houses at bottom end of Upper Villers Street? – There was a sweetshop on the corner & a factory behind. My dad’s family lived thereabouts but can’t recall the number.

      Hi Jan
      We need to be looking for photos from just above The old “Villiers Arms” and Fowler Street, I have the Rowley family, living at No.30, Upper Villiers Street. in the 1950’s.

      This photo Looking from Drayton Street to Mason Street, would have interested your Dad, who probably attended Graisley School and may have recalled the large water tank that was placed on the Recreation ground in front of the school during the war.

      Reservoir St Lukes

      I shall have a look through my collection for further pictures of Villiers Street and perhaps other items of interest.

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    • #5184

      Billy

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      Hello Billy ..and thanks.

      I remember the reservoir very well as a child. My dad was named George Dunn. He went to St Marys & Johns on Snow Hill.There were 5 children at the house & in the fifties it was shared by the 2 daughters & husbands. I think it was compulsorily purchased in the early 60 s at which point one family were moved to a small terrace near the shop & the other was rehoused in Heath Town flats. The house was on the left hand side coming down the hill next but one to a turning to a small modern factory. On the next corner was the sweet shop.

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    • #5185

      Billy

      Participant

      Hi Jan.
      There was a family named Dunn at No. 118, The little block in between Cyprus Street and Chetwynd Road,the shop was possibly on the corner of one of those streets Do you recall the Old Windmill in your younger days.

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