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George this was Malcolm Smith’s original contact message we received via a story posted on the newsletter .
So I have posted these e-mails from Malcolm on the forum for him and I am hoping he will join for he has some most interesting stories to tell.
From Malcolm.
Blimey! What memories in those photo`s, especially North st.The times I went past there upstairs on the trolley bus, usually after school (Elston Hall then Wobaston) on my way to my grans in Horseley Fields, and on my own,a lot less traffic then, but buses everywhere, quite safe for a lad of 9 or 10 to be on his own.
Yours, Malcolm Smith.(Proud Wulfrunian of 70 yrs standing,now exiled in cornwall.)
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Blimey George I have missed you I hope your gallivanting has ceased now for awhile.
Tony obviously didn’t realise that you had given the correct solution with The Queens Building in Victoria Square. Which of course is now a “Costa Coffee”,
And if you go inside and look through the now glassed up gateway were the ornate gates were removed from. You will still see across the way on the corner of Queen Street street The Georgian Building split today between the Wulfrun Hotel and a One Stop food store.
As you say George the ornate gates have now gone forever to the Lost Wolverhampton Property store in the Sky.
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The above post was sent to me via our newsletter, by Malcolm Smith ,(Proud Wulfrunian of 70 yrs standing, now exiled in cornwall.)
He recalls also visiting the Wholesale market in the 1950’s, with his Grandmother Mrs Dalton who owned a Greengrocers No. 19 Horseley Fields close to the top of Corn Hill.pictured here.
I am looking forward to more memories of Lost Wolverhampton from Malcolm in the future.
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A Little chapter to get this thread going
The map of Wolverhampton, drawn by Isaac Taylor in 1750, shows little development of the south and west of the town which at that time was entirely agricultural.
The next century though proved to be a growth period for Wolverhampton and the towns of the area which was to become known as the Black Country.
All the expansion took place to the east of Wolverhampton. Factories, workshops and terraces of workers’ houses are shown on the maps of 1840s.But on the western side of the town things apparently changed but little! However the census of 1851 shows that in fact the tenancy of the larger farm houses was now in the hands of professional and business men, working in the town but living in some style surrounded by countryside. and here is situated the large General Cemetery.off Jeffcock Road and Merridale Road
Regarding Bantock House It is not certain who built the House, but the first owners were the Petit family.
The Petit’s were originally French Huguenots, who also owned Ettingshall Park and Old Merridale Farm which was situated about half a mile closer to the Town at the corner of Merridale Road and Merridale Lane.Although the ownership of the house passed through the Petit family for over a hundred years they never actually lived there but leased out the property.
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This photo shows the North side of Horseley Fields from Mill Street down to Corn Hill.
But by the time of this photo early 1960’s was taken the half a dozen buildings on the corner of Corn Hill including No. 19 had been demolished to make way for the New General Post Office sorting office,
I would love to see a photo of your grans shop No.19 which I seem to recall was once a greengrocers, any chance of e-mailing this to me.
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Hi Paul
Thank you for your comment, As I mentioned I have my office next door to the old radiotheraphy buildings in Gordon Street at my friends printing works. that once fronted Cleveland House.
Tesco are still working on improving the old Hospital, but whats going to become of the whole site is now in the hands of God.
I look forward to your future comments.
Billy
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We mentioned Tom Phillipson earlier who after he retired from football, stayed in Wolverhampton and later became Mayor.
He also went into the retail trade as a tobacconist, with shops in Victoria Street and one seen her in Horseley Fields.
When this road was first cut to join up with Walsall Street at the start of Willenhall road what was its original name.
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In 1958 after finishing my Army service I Got the urge as most do to learn to drive . This I did with the help of my boss in the Wholesale Market in Wolverhampton who allowed me to place L Plates on our three ton Bedford, and with an accompanying driver, deliver goods to local tradesmen.
I think it was my second outing when on our way to pick up a load of pre-packed potatoes I ran over a dog that had run under the back wheels We were opposite the police Station at Tern Hill at the time and I will never forget carrying the dead animal into the station that day.
Then as you did I bought my own vehicle a second hand A.38 Pick-up which I drove myself without L Plates before taking and passing my test.
If you look on the second picture of the three (Questions and Answers) regarding Wulfruna Street. You will see the Lorry in question behind the pick-up.
More about the A.38 soon.
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Well done Tony – The other Wolves player and Referee for the match was Val gregory Wolves Captain in their 1921, losing Cup Final team .
I may be wrong but I believe when Gregory retired he stayed in Wolverhampton and was at one time licensee of the Great Western Inn. on Stafford Road ( I wish someone could confirm or dispute that )
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Well this forum needs you!
I realise perhaps some of my pictures will go back beyond your living memory the images in focus long gone.
But “Lost Wolverhampton” is just a small part of a bigger picture showing the many changes to Wolverhampton my old town now a city.So please join for remember! “Memories last longer than Dreams”
To join the forum, just register using your email and you will be able to sign up to the site.
All you have to do is go on the site, Register with whatever details you choose, and an email will be sent to youremail address asking you to click on a confirmation link,
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Or stood in Wulfruna Street at the rear of the College of Art,on an early evening in the 1950’s waiting for a No. 3 bus to Fordhouses when in those days, the queue usually stretched to Lichfield passage.
Or perhaps opposite alongside the old Polytechic, for the returning bus as it carried on down Stafford Street, via Cannock Road to Bushbury Hill.
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We are getting there Tony, although not quite right although the names Hollingsworth and Richards have both appeared on the Wolves programmes over the years.
In this case I would say the are Butchers in the Wholesale meat trade.
Hollingsworths were a big Pork Wholesalers with Works and shops both in Horseley fields and Lichfield Street.
Tom Phillipson is correct. (One of the best strikers to play for Wolves.)
Harold Shaw is correct (Goalkeeper at that time if my memories correct.)
So the other fellow shouldn’t be hard to find now.
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A bit before all our times now I would think Maggie. But the some of the names certainly carried on to the 60’s and 70’s and some like Gill’s to the present day.
Some that lived in the All Saints area might recal David Jewkes whose Butchers shop was in Steelhouse Lane . and of course The name of Blakemore the Wholesaler’s is still well known across the Midlands today.
Thankyou Maggie for your comment.
I still would like to see some interest in naming the Wolves connections .
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You are correct Tony It was as you say a Charity Match at the Molineux Grounds between the Retail and Wholesale Butchers.
I am sure the will be some older members out there who may recognise the names of their local butcher’s
There is also 3 quality Wolves players participating in the match can you rpick out their names.
I am sure we can keep this going a little longer.
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Thats correct Bob it is Angus McLean
A solidly built centre-half who began his career with Aberystwyth Town, McLean moved on to Hilton Main before joining Wolverhampton Wanderers as an amateur in 1939.
He turned professional in November 1942 and helped Wolves to top six finishes in each of the first three post-war seasons. A knee injury kept him out of the team for most of the 1948-49 season and so he missed out on a place in Wolves’ 1949 FA Cup winning side.
McLean left Wolves in May 1951 to become player-manager at Aberystwyth Town, subsequently joining Bromsgrove Rovers as a player. In May 1953, McLean joined Bury as player-coach, moving to Crewe Alexandra as a player the following June.
After leaving Crewe he coached a number of non-league sides before taking over from Brian Clough as manager of Hartlepools United in May 1967. The following season, he led Hartlepool to their first ever promotion, but they were relegated after just one season. Despite relegation, McLean remained in charge, but was sacked in April 1970 when Hartlepool finished in the bottom four and were forced to seek re-election to the Football League.
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He came from the seaside and grew up at Molineux with Billy Wright, Roy Pritchard and others – during the War years, no less – and made his League debut for the club in a 6-1 home victory over Arsenal that also marked the First Division introductions of Bert Williams, Johnny Hancocks, hat-trick man Jesse Pye, Fred Ramscar and Billy himself.
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Hello June, This is a mid 1950’s winter view of St Mary’s terrace. Your house No.3 was probably the one on the left of the entry. If I remember rightly the Eagles were on the right of the entry.
I called on John and Brian Eagle often as I might have mentioned before we all went to St Patricks Church and St Josephs school. I can recall the row of toilets across the back yard a few yards from the houses.
When the terrace was being demolited in the late 1950’s the late Charles Harrington a signwriter from North Street was passing as the took down the cast iron sign, he aquired it and for 50 years it was featured on the back garden wall of his bungalow at Whitwick.I hoped to have it when he died but that hasn’t come off.
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Hello Billy. We moved to Saint Marys Terrace Number three in 1941. My mother married Joe Wright, who had four children by a previous marriage.It was a hovel,the water, and toilet was outside,a two up and two down,and there was even less room when our mum, and my brother, who is seven years older than me moved in.
Our surname was Lambeth.What bothers me is this….this man you mentioned,Maiden, was the place made more habitable before he moved in in the fifties,and did he know it was haunted?.
There were problems in the attic.Even at such an early age I sensed it, and there were witnesses.This is all good stuff, and you are a star.
much love June
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Yes it is indeed a nice backfitting George and you are correct it was placed By “H Blackham” in the 1880’s in his newly built shop premises in Lichfield Street opposite the Art Gallery.
The shop today is still displaying the ornate backfitting, and also offers eye tests and is operated by “Lichfield Street” the opticians.
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This is a small peice of a map from 1871, of St Mary’s Ward, showing the terrace behind St Marys Church and Schools You will notice the area between Herbert Street and Little Lane is densley populated then this will all be cleared in the late 1920’s.
I have printed The Terrace in Colour June along with N0.3 your house.
As I recall in the mid 1950’s the Tanadynka’s lived at No.2 Rose Tanadynka’s mother, Mrs Hayward kept the Lodging house on the corner of Herbert Street at that time.
The Eagles who I believe may have been related to them lived a couple of doors away, they left to live in St Annes Road around 1951.
By the way June did you ever tell me your maiden name Because it would be a great coincidence as George Maiden lived at N0. 3 in 1956.
Please keep in touch June.
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Bang on Tony, Maplins I believe replaced “Richards” Ladies Fashions, who themselves in the late 1950’s took on the ornate building in Dudley Street the former home of “The Dudley Arms” a Butlers Public House.
On the left today still stand “The British Homes Stores”and to the right the entrance doorway that once led to “Jeromes” photographers is still there.
I only hope in the near future that when some more enterprising business takes over the building they will move that piece of unattractive facade, to reveal the old public house coat of arms and its frontage in all its glory.
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Nice one George, and this is what this “Puzzle Corner” is all about.
It doesn’t matter wether or not anyone solves these little riddles.
If this little weekly Quiz helps people discover small, perhaps to some; irrevalent bits of Old Wolverhampton. To me thats everything.
The answer to this weeks quiz :
The Public House in question now de-licensed, was “The Lewisham”
The building is still standing on the corner of Prosser Street and Stratton Street, Park Village.
The connection with the William Heneage Legge, 6th Earl of Dartmouthis that he was styled “Viscount Lewisham”
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Sorry Maggie my fault . I expect everyone to know the whereabouts of places in old Wolverhampton as well as I do.
I should have mentioned that “Fowlers Park” was and still is situated of the Cannock Road. the entrance of which was at the side of The Wagon & Horses.
The Railway tracks and the canal ran alongside the western edge of it. Part of the eastern edge bordered Nine Elms Lane which also led off the Cannock Road.
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Well done Bob you were beginning to have me worried.
I love these aerial shots Bob you can really get some information from them , Dates etc..
Just enterering the “Swinging Sixties” I see the C & A has forced the unfortunate demolition of our historic Swan & Peacock, and although Mander Brothers are still clinging on to their works, in St John’s Street , we see the demolition to sites in Bell Street and Cleveland Street in readyness for the Mander Centre.
Pure “Nostalgia”
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Perhaps a clue is needed here?
Greenaway playing fields, opened in June 1931, were given to the people of Bilston by Mr JL Greenway.
It was noted that the opening ceremony was performed by the president of the Staffordshire Playing Fields Association, the Earl of Dartmouth, the Hon Humphrey Legge, DSO, DL.
Son of the Gentleman pictured above.
On the 20th of June 1935 a similar ceremony went on in Wolverhampton when the Sir William Henry Fowler, Playing Fields were opened by the present Earls sister, Lady Joan Legge.
Perhaps “Fowlers Park” as its known today may bring the answer to the whereabouts of this former Public House closer to home.
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Nice one Tony I like yourself have followed Billy W’s career over the years.
An interesting post from George and I am sure being a little older and having spent more years in Lost Wolverhampton than him, I can be forgiven for helping him out on the few locations he mentioned.
Although Parry’s Hardware has long gone from opposite the “Criterion” in (Lichfield) Street the Hairdressers in the mid 60’s known as the “Sportsman” is still functioning, maybe now with a different name.
I seem to recall a quality Hairstylist called Alan working amongst 5 others for Maison Haselocks opposite the Art gallery during the 1960’s, could he be the chappie George refers to as moving to Rothmans Tobacconist, next door to the Cafe Royal moving later to School Street.
The School street hairdressers was opened in the early 1960’s by Albert Williams above his newly opened Tailors shop. I believe our old freind Billy W, sharpened his scissors there for awhile. at the start.
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http://lostwolverhampton.co.uk/2010/07/hair-care-1940s-style-as-i-recall-it/
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Did you visit the Archives Carole like we suggested apparently they now have lots of plans and particulars regarding lands and estates sold in the past around Wolverhampton.
Did you see Heather Hales peice in the E & S regarding the sale of Claregate House she discovered at the Archives I’d forgot about it until I was reminded of it at the Archives Saturday last .
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.On November 8, 1920, one of the most enduring and well-loved children’s characters in British fiction made his first appearance in the Daily Express.
In 1935 the Daily Express decided that there were enough Rupert adventures to collect them all together in one volume, making an annual. During the height of Rupert’s popularity in the 1950’s sales of the Rupert Annual topped 1.7 million.
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